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	<title>Comments on: High Schools impose Graduation idiocy and teach kids the wrong lesson</title>
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		<title>By: Killian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree how absurd this whole thing is.  I just attended my third childs graduation and must say with each one this situation has become more ridiculous!  I must say the plain clothes policeman (as well as the enormous amount of uniformed policeman) going into the stands to "kick out" the ones cheering was much more distrubing to me than the cheering and yelling was for the kids!!  I missed more names being called due to the distraction of policeman bouncing people out than I ever would have simply because someone cheered out of happiness for their child!  What is this world coming to!!!!!!  At one point the entire stage of graduates cheered for someone walking across that stage .... they didn't boot them out!!  But yet they booted out countless numbers of family members and friends for cheers that lasted no more than five seconds!!!  Police hauling out families and friends was so much more disturbing and disrespectful to the graduates in my opinion!  Unbelievable .... I just don't understand what motivates some people to push their "power".  It's certainly not common sense!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree how absurd this whole thing is.  I just attended my third childs graduation and must say with each one this situation has become more ridiculous!  I must say the plain clothes policeman (as well as the enormous amount of uniformed policeman) going into the stands to &#8220;kick out&#8221; the ones cheering was much more distrubing to me than the cheering and yelling was for the kids!!  I missed more names being called due to the distraction of policeman bouncing people out than I ever would have simply because someone cheered out of happiness for their child!  What is this world coming to!!!!!!  At one point the entire stage of graduates cheered for someone walking across that stage &#8230;. they didn&#8217;t boot them out!!  But yet they booted out countless numbers of family members and friends for cheers that lasted no more than five seconds!!!  Police hauling out families and friends was so much more disturbing and disrespectful to the graduates in my opinion!  Unbelievable &#8230;. I just don&#8217;t understand what motivates some people to push their &#8220;power&#8221;.  It&#8217;s certainly not common sense!!</p>
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		<title>By: Marina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A child's diploma, which was earned by years of hard work, should not be held hostage by a school. Moreover, a child cannot be held responsible for the misbehavior of unidentified audience members. This administration has lots its moral bearings.

To complain, write to the administration!
http://www.streaks.org/email.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A child&#8217;s diploma, which was earned by years of hard work, should not be held hostage by a school. Moreover, a child cannot be held responsible for the misbehavior of unidentified audience members. This administration has lots its moral bearings.</p>
<p>To complain, write to the administration!<br />
<a href="http://www.streaks.org/email.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.streaks.org/email.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 04:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is outrageous. Has our country become so totalitarian that we have to regulate even the joyous cheers of our friends &#38; family members celebrating the graduation of our children? I think that this principal has gone too far &#38; needs his lousy controlling self sued so badly that he'll think twice about punishing children for something that they had no control over. These kids were humiliated in front of their loved ones because of this principal. You only get one high school graduation &#38; that's not the way you want to remember it, &#38; you can't redo it. You can't take it back. If there is a petition out there that can be signed, add me because I find this uncalled-for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is outrageous. Has our country become so totalitarian that we have to regulate even the joyous cheers of our friends &amp; family members celebrating the graduation of our children? I think that this principal has gone too far &amp; needs his lousy controlling self sued so badly that he&#8217;ll think twice about punishing children for something that they had no control over. These kids were humiliated in front of their loved ones because of this principal. You only get one high school graduation &amp; that&#8217;s not the way you want to remember it, &amp; you can&#8217;t redo it. You can&#8217;t take it back. If there is a petition out there that can be signed, add me because I find this uncalled-for.</p>
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		<title>By: JC Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of lesson is a child to learn from this nonsensical, authoritarian response? That even if he performs his duties in excellence every day for four long years, it can be negated in the space of five minutes, by the actions of others over which he has no control?

What power does the graduating student have that the school administrators do not have to control the crowd? The ACLU spokesman should remember that the school's ability to control the "decorum" at an event does not extend further than the boundaries of each individual's civil rights. That means the school must confine their actions to the persons that are in violation of the rules, and does not somehow magically transfer individual responsibility for someone else's actions to the student they cheer for.

Apply that skewed logic to other situations, and it quickly becomes clear just how idiotic the school's position is.

For example, at the next school board meeting, the superintendent rises to give a short speech. Every time he makes a good point, three citizens in the back of the room cheer and whistle loudly. So the local policeman in attendance grabs the superintendent by the arm and escorts him out of the building for disrupting the meeting.

Does that sound at all sensible to anyone with a pulse and the mental capacity of an eight year-old?

Or imagine what would happen at the next presidential debate in which the moderator, having asked the audience to hold its applause until the end of the debate, expelled one of the candidates because the crowd cheered at an especially good one-liner. The moderator would be considered extremely fortunate if he managed to avoid tar and feathering!

The bottom line is that most of the young people graduating are over 18, and considered adults with the full compliment of rights belonging to adults, in the eyes of the law. The school administrators, being accustomed to imposing their arbitrary will on children who are not considered to be endowed with the full set of rights that comes with adulthood, are showing just how arbitrary that power can be when it is wielded by authoritarians without conscience. They might get away with it in the classroom where children are subject to that arbitrary power, but the adults that walk across the stage, having earned the right to their diplomas, have also earned the right to never again be subject to the whim of arbitrary power.

They should exercise that right, and demand that they receive the diplomas they have earned, teaching the "educators" a lesson in the personal humility endemic to a free society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of lesson is a child to learn from this nonsensical, authoritarian response? That even if he performs his duties in excellence every day for four long years, it can be negated in the space of five minutes, by the actions of others over which he has no control?</p>
<p>What power does the graduating student have that the school administrators do not have to control the crowd? The ACLU spokesman should remember that the school&#8217;s ability to control the &#8220;decorum&#8221; at an event does not extend further than the boundaries of each individual&#8217;s civil rights. That means the school must confine their actions to the persons that are in violation of the rules, and does not somehow magically transfer individual responsibility for someone else&#8217;s actions to the student they cheer for.</p>
<p>Apply that skewed logic to other situations, and it quickly becomes clear just how idiotic the school&#8217;s position is.</p>
<p>For example, at the next school board meeting, the superintendent rises to give a short speech. Every time he makes a good point, three citizens in the back of the room cheer and whistle loudly. So the local policeman in attendance grabs the superintendent by the arm and escorts him out of the building for disrupting the meeting.</p>
<p>Does that sound at all sensible to anyone with a pulse and the mental capacity of an eight year-old?</p>
<p>Or imagine what would happen at the next presidential debate in which the moderator, having asked the audience to hold its applause until the end of the debate, expelled one of the candidates because the crowd cheered at an especially good one-liner. The moderator would be considered extremely fortunate if he managed to avoid tar and feathering!</p>
<p>The bottom line is that most of the young people graduating are over 18, and considered adults with the full compliment of rights belonging to adults, in the eyes of the law. The school administrators, being accustomed to imposing their arbitrary will on children who are not considered to be endowed with the full set of rights that comes with adulthood, are showing just how arbitrary that power can be when it is wielded by authoritarians without conscience. They might get away with it in the classroom where children are subject to that arbitrary power, but the adults that walk across the stage, having earned the right to their diplomas, have also earned the right to never again be subject to the whim of arbitrary power.</p>
<p>They should exercise that right, and demand that they receive the diplomas they have earned, teaching the &#8220;educators&#8221; a lesson in the personal humility endemic to a free society.</p>
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		<title>By: SeekingReality</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeekingReality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe this kind of thing &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be some kind of government conspiracy to brainwash kids into believing that if you break the slightest rule--even an imaginary one--or don't act &lt;i&gt;just right,&lt;/i&gt; they will pay.  They also learned that the government (the public school) can withhold the fruit of their labor (their diplomas) at whim.

Personally, I would prefer to abolish public school entirely, and instead provide vouchers redeemable at schools under private control.  With the public school system, the poli-crats get to control every aspect of the educational experience, resulting in involuntary psychoanalysis, "sex education" that violates personal standards of decency and morality, "zero tolerance" policies that teach kids to accept gun control, drugging kids into a stupor with Ritalin, and "prayer in schools" debates with communist lawyers who twist the First Amendment on one side versus right-wing politicians who take the stance of "I Heart God More Than That Yonder Candidate" while snorting coke and cheating on their wives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m saying this, but maybe this kind of thing <i>might</i> be some kind of government conspiracy to brainwash kids into believing that if you break the slightest rule&#8211;even an imaginary one&#8211;or don&#8217;t act <i>just right,</i> they will pay.  They also learned that the government (the public school) can withhold the fruit of their labor (their diplomas) at whim.</p>
<p>Personally, I would prefer to abolish public school entirely, and instead provide vouchers redeemable at schools under private control.  With the public school system, the poli-crats get to control every aspect of the educational experience, resulting in involuntary psychoanalysis, &#8220;sex education&#8221; that violates personal standards of decency and morality, &#8220;zero tolerance&#8221; policies that teach kids to accept gun control, drugging kids into a stupor with Ritalin, and &#8220;prayer in schools&#8221; debates with communist lawyers who twist the First Amendment on one side versus right-wing politicians who take the stance of &#8220;I Heart God More Than That Yonder Candidate&#8221; while snorting coke and cheating on their wives.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 02:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stunned and amazed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stunned and amazed!</p>
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		<title>By: Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People seem too forget when they were young and become, as my granny would say, sticks in the mud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People seem too forget when they were young and become, as my granny would say, sticks in the mud.</p>
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		<title>By: Yunie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yunie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This.. is just ridiculous. Astounding. Disgusting.

After thirteen years of school, of pursueing near impossible studies, bad teachers, peer pressure, bullies, struggling to fit in, and sometimes, basically hell, graduation should be something joyous. 

A walk across the stage, people should cheer for you. You've made it that far, against so many troubles. You've done what still many couldn't.

And to withhold the degrees because people want to make it joyous? Fun? Something to be happy about?

Asking for some degree of politeness is correct. Like no ripping off your robe and streaking, or throwing eggs at someone. But witholding the degrees for a beach ball? For cheering? Then making them do work?

No. That's not all right. These people need to pull the large stick out of their ass and loosen up. Graduation should be a time of happiness, not a time of rigid formality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This.. is just ridiculous. Astounding. Disgusting.</p>
<p>After thirteen years of school, of pursueing near impossible studies, bad teachers, peer pressure, bullies, struggling to fit in, and sometimes, basically hell, graduation should be something joyous. </p>
<p>A walk across the stage, people should cheer for you. You&#8217;ve made it that far, against so many troubles. You&#8217;ve done what still many couldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And to withhold the degrees because people want to make it joyous? Fun? Something to be happy about?</p>
<p>Asking for some degree of politeness is correct. Like no ripping off your robe and streaking, or throwing eggs at someone. But witholding the degrees for a beach ball? For cheering? Then making them do work?</p>
<p>No. That&#8217;s not all right. These people need to pull the large stick out of their ass and loosen up. Graduation should be a time of happiness, not a time of rigid formality.</p>
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