Oct 08 2007
Democrat SCHIP ad uses not so poor kid as a tool, and some thoughts on SCHIP
STA via Sister Toldjah brings this story:
The lefties and the media piled on when Bush used his veto pen on this one. They tried to drop the absolute moral authority bomb on it big time. Looks like a little backfire is on the horizon.
Kim Priestap does a great summary and roundup on this.
On September 29th, 12 year old Graeme Frost of Maryland got to do the Democrats’ radio address, in which he told his story of how he and his sister were seriously injured in a car accident, and if it hadn’t been for SCHIP, they wouldn’t be here today. So who is this 12 year old? The Baltimore Sun did a story on the family, in which it stated the family couldn’t get health insurance through their work. But the article left out quite a few important, and interesting, bits of information, which Freeper, icwhatudo, managed to find while googling:
First, Mr. Halsey Frost, Graeme’s father, owns his own woodworking design studio, Frostworks, so his claim that he can’t get health insurance through work is shockingly deceptive. He chooses not to get health care for his family. Second, Graeme and his sister Gemma attend the very exclusive Park School, which has a tuition of $20,000 a year, per child. Third, they live in a 3,000+ square foot home in a neighborhood with smaller homes that are selling for at least $400,000.
Yet, hardworking taxpayers who sacrifice many things such as expensive private schools and expensive houses in order to buy their own health care for their families are supposed to subsidize this family’s health insurance premiums.
The implication is fairly simple. The family used SCHIP because they chose to.
Obviously the family was chosen for their absolute moral authority value, no real shock. There is a real possibility of course that despite the mounting evidence of their relative prosperity that Health Insurance may have been to expensive. I cannot say for sure.
But as STA continues, the real debate is on the actual intention of the program. Is it a stopgap program to fill a need, to cover those who cannot get coverage, or is it an entitlement for anyone to use as a cheaper option?
My employer has pretty decent benefits that I pay a couple hundred bucks a month as my share, and I am comfortable with that. Oh to be sure, I would love for it to be 100% funded for me by my boss, but that isn’t the way it goes anymore. I consider it worth the investment. Other however do not have such luck, and often have to pay more for less comprehensive coverage. There is no doubt that we need something to be done.
But I am not convinced that a government entitlement is the best way to approach the problem.
All the programs government tends to run typically share a few things in common.
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huge bureaucracy
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excessive administration
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substandard benefit, below promises
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obstructionist rules
I see no reason to believe an expansion of SCHIP would be any different.
So rather than point trembling emotional fingers at the Veto, perhaps we should open the debate on the real issues.
The country needs some kind of health care reform. Let’s open the debate
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Hi there, This is just what I was looking for!
You people never cease to amaze me…you support a winless war begun on a lie and deception of the american public using their tax dollars (off budget) to pay $2B/week to fund this war begun by our Chicken Hawk Republican WH and Congressmen then tell the public that you would deny healthcare for those that need it….what lies you sow but nobody believes them…this program for your information was started by Newt Gengrich and a bipartisan legislation which is the most popular healthcare program in the country that W use to praise when he was dictator of Texas..and for your information, nobody receives benefits from this program without being screened for eligibility…these folks that may own a business probably don’t have the money to pay $1,500 or more a month for healthcare premiums not counting out of pocket costs…you are the same people that want to repeal the inheritance tax (that your darling Rs coin the “death tax”…what a sham) that protects not the folks that they deceive us into believing that it does but the 1% of us like Paris Hilton and Bill Gates…stop drinking the kool-aid and wake up my friend!
No war is winless if you have goals and the will to win. We have a democrat congress with the desire to lose.
Not true, and for all you keep saying it, it continues to be a baseless allegation.
Lie. I do not deny any benefit to people who need it, the issue is whether to expand it to twice the income ratio as now, and i am not convinced it is needful
I don’t have issue with a need based program. I have issue with the expansion to those not needful
False, at least in that it is not a requirement, and many states do not have any eligibility tests.
You forget that I clearly admitted that in my blog which you must not have read: There is a real possibility of course that despite the mounting evidence of their relative prosperity that Health Insurance may have been to expensive. I cannot say for sure.
Yes I do, it is immoral to tax things twice. Any estate a person has they have already paid taxes on numerous times, why should it continue? Because we hate the rich for being rich?
Calling it what it is, just like you D’s call abortion a choice, not a death.
Bill Gates has given far more of his wealth to the community then any other rich person, he is a piss poor target of your penis envy.
Now I’m convinced that your party will bring this country down…read this my son to get the facts about this issus:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/halsey-frost
You really don’t know anything about this plan…it does not fund illegal aliens as the chicken hawk right wing has lied about; it does not double in size…that is the other lie that has been spewed from the right…there was one state that tried to expand it to families with $80K but it never made it in the bill and the predominance of the families that use this plan don’t make more than $40K/year…I hate to ask you where you get your healthcare but the hundred or so Republicans who voted against this bill today get theirs from YOUR tax dollars…the reason healthcare is so expensive is that you are fooled into believing that we can allow an industry whos only motive is profit to equitably run healthcare in this country(read the article above and learn something about the issue)…and the family above who this do-do brain deceives everyone into believing that paid $20/year for a private school…IT WAS A SCHOLARSHIP, KNUCKLEHEAD…STOP DECEIVING THE PUBLIC DUE TO YOUR SELFISHNESS, STUPIDITY AND CRUELNESS…NO WONDER OUR COUNTRY IS IN TROUBLE! AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE IRS TAXES INCOME…WHERE I COME FROM, WHEN YOU INHERIT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS (AND BY THE WAY, AMERICANS ARE EXEMPTED UP TO $5M OF INHERITANCE TAX FREE WHICH MOST OF YOU KNUCKLEHEADS THAT TOUT IT AS DEATH TAX SEEM TO LEAVE OUT TO MAKE PUBLIC THINK THIS IS ABOUT THE POOR FARMER OR BUSINESS OWNER, WHICH IT ISN’T), IT IS INCOME TO YOU AND SHOULD BE TAXED…YOU DIDN’T DO ANYTHING TO EARN IT, DID YOU? THE BEST PART IS THAT MOST OF THESE MILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT KING GEO. WANTS TO PASS TAX FREE TO THEIR CHICKEN HAWK HEIRS NEVER SAW A PENNY OF TAX SINCE THEY WERE EARNED USING OUR BEAUTIFUL TAX CODE WHICH IS WRITEEN BY MILLIONAIRES, FOR BILLIONAIRES AND THE SUCKERS IN THE MIDDLE CLASS PAY FOR IT IN HIGHER TAXES TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT THESE PRIVELIDGED DON’T PAY…SO, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE FORTUNE OF PARIS HILTON, BILL GATES, THE BUSH FAMILY OR A HEDGE FUND OWNER, YOU HAVE ONCE AGAIN BEEN FOOLED BY YOUR PARTY INTO BELIEVING THEIR LITTLE DECEPTION IS TO SAVE YOU FROM PAYING TAXES TWICE…GOD HELP US!
John.
Deep Breathes…in….out….
Next, avoid all Caffeine for at least a month.
Finally, come back when you have your facts straight, and can actually address what I said without misrepresenting my words.
And stop yelling its bad form.
Sheesh. I don’t know where to begin.
I’m not a Republican so it is not my party. They expansion of the program would raise the entitlement to 83k for a family of 4. Deal with the facts.
And why defend the Frosts? They are in no danger, they were qualified and still are, but frankly there are people with greater need. Deal with it.
Take your raving back to HuffPo.